IGNITe/400 Mailing List Archive Entry

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I spent a lot of time getting this to work in V4R2 (haven't tried it on=
V4R3
yet) and finally got it working. Here is my understanding of what is g=
oing on
with this, based on a bunch of experimentation. I didn't find the webm=
aster's
guide all that helpful in this area.

First of all, don't even try to get this to work by editing the http co=
nfig
file. The only way I ever got it to work was by using the admin server=
.. I saw
another notice recently on this topic, so it sounds like this is a must=
-do.

Most of this information came from problems encountered by the students=
in a
series of classes I ran in the spring of this year, so I think I manage=
d to
torture-test my lab instructions pretty thoroughly. The first problem =
that
many people encountered is that there are several places in which you s=
pecify
"%%SERVER%%" or "%%CLIENT%%", or sometimes "%%SYSTEM%%". In the config=
uration
page (remember I'm using the admin server here) the first function is c=
alled
"Basic Settings". There's a space to enter a user ID. If you specify =
anything
other than "%%SYSTEM%%" in this field, then the server will end up aski=
ng you
for a user name and password when you first access the server. You may=
think
that this means that authentication is working, but it isn't. This use=
r ID is
used to run HTTP requests and doesn't have anything to do with user
authentication. Leave this as "%%SERVER%%". You may find that you end=
up with
multiple lines in your config file (I found this out by manually editin=
g the
config file). I haven't checked if this was fixed with the last round =
of PTFs,
but if it happens to you, manually remove all the ones you don't want.

Once you get to the spot where you want to start setting up access cont=
rol,
there is more confusion. The Protection Setup page has two variables r=
elated
to user ID. The first is Validation List, and it defaults to "%%SYSTEM=
%%". If
you use this, then you will be using AS/400 user IDs. If you specify a=
name,
then you will be using what I call "web-only" user IDs. The name has t=
o be in
the format "library/object", and it has to already exist in a library
somewhere. The object is called a validation list and is created using=
the
CRTVLDL command. This is the only place I've found where you don't use=
IFS
naming. The only thing you can do with this object from a green screen=
is to
create it, delete it, save it and restore it. To add users to the list=
, you
have to use the "Add Users" option on the configuration page. You can =
add a
user, delete a user and check if a user exists in the list. You can't =
do this
from a green screen. A little security note: this type of authenticat=
ion is
called Basic Authentication. On other systems, the names in their equi=
valent
of the validation list are stored as base-64 encoded text. It's NOT
encryption, and it's pretty easy to decode if you can get a copy of the=
list
(usually called a password file). On the AS/400, you get extra securit=
y
because first of all, it's in the QSYS file system and it's hard to rea=
d binary
objects in QSYS from a PC or Unix system. Secondly, and more important=
ly, the
contents of a validation list are one way encrypted using the same encr=
yption
that is used for AS/400 passwords. Even if someone could get a copy of=
the
list, they would find it very difficult to decrypt.

There's another field on this page which is called "User ID" and it def=
aults to
"%%SERVER%%". More confusion! This one is really good because even th=
e help
text is confused about what should be in this field. If you leave it a=
s
"%%SERVER%%", then when the server completes the transaction it will do=
so
under the user ID QTMHHTTP. If you change it to "%%CLIENT%%", then wha=
tever
you provided when you first accessed the server (which was asked for if=
you
specified "%%CLIENT%%" in your Basic settings) will be the user profile=
the
server switches to when it completes the transaction. If for some reas=
on the
user profile doesn't exist, you get "authentication failed" messages. =
This
was the cause of most of the problems encountered by my students. They=
would
specify "%%CLIENT%%" in the basic settings, then set up a validation li=
st and
add users, then try to access the page and get a "authorization failed"=

message. It would drive everyone crazy because they would check the us=
er and
find that they were in the list, yet not be able to access the secured =
page.
The AS/400 doesn't seem to check if the user profile you specify at the=

beginning exists or not; it only checks when it has to switch to that u=
ser
profile to complete a transaction.

Anyway, here's my lab instructions for those of you who want to try it
yourselves.




___________________________________________________
Evelyn A. Porter
Consulting IT Specialist
e-business Solutions Centre
IBM Canada Ltd.
3375 North Service Road, Burlington, Ontario L7N 3G2
Phone: 905-319-4569 Fax: 905-319-4595 Cell: 416-420-5914
eporter@ca.ibm.com



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RE: IBM ICS Web server - Authentication


isabo@boscom.com (Itzy Sabo)

Me too. I've just duplicated a functioning system onto another 2 machin=
es
running V4R2 and V4R3 and the validation lists are not being read by th=
e
server -- everybody is denied access.

Help!!!

Regards,

Itzy Sabo
OppoSite Software, a division of Better Online Solutions
isabo@boscom.com
http://www.bosweb.com

?The AS/400 combines the stability and power of Unix with the ease of
use of Windows NT.?


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Sent: Wednesday, 4 November, 1998 7:13 AM
To: IGNITE400 MEMBERS LIST Mailing List
IBM ICS Web server - Authentication


Madan Divaker

Hi All,

Regarding authentication with IBM ICS Webserver - we managed to get the=

authentication going with the existing AS/400 user profiles. We had
problems with the validation lists using non AS/400 profiles/ Could any=
one
guide us how to setup non AS/400 user ids etc?

Thanks,
Madan

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